Tuesday, September 26, 2017

Memory

After reading part of Maus, you are aware that Vladek is sharing memories with his son Artie.

Watch this YouTube video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7WLk-KVYM4

After watching the video and reading Maus, comment on Vladek's memories of life before WWII citing specific evidence from the text. Do his memories appear REALISTIC or IDEALISTIC?

 
Guidelines:

  • Your response needs to be 75-100 words. At the end of your response please put your first name, last initial, and school initials in parenthesis.
  • Your response needs to be directed to the main prompt but reflect your reading of the responses that have been made prior to your post. You cannot merely restate what those before you have stated.

22 comments:

  1. I believe Vladek's memories appear to be realistic. He talks about his war experience, the first anti-semitic laws and his experience in the camps. I'd like to use a piece of evidence when he was a soldier describing a scene on where he had to shoot at the Germans. "But I kept shooting until finally the tree stopped moving. Who knows! Otherwise he could have shot me!"(Spiegelman 48). This shows a very realistic thought that comes to soldiers at war. Soldiers are fighting to live and anything can happen. Vladek acted on instinct which most soldiers do at war. (Daniel McCullough, SAHS)

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  2. After completing Maus 1 and watching the video, I believe Vladek's memories appear realistic. Artie, Vladek's son, was grateful to reflect and hear his father's story about what life was like during the Holocaust. Artie even created the book we read today and how much the story has changed his life. On page 74 of Maus 1, there are group photos of his family eating at the dinner table. Artie specifically did this to show how much he loved them and to make a small remembrance of it because it was his family. He was even lucky enough that his father survived the war. (94)
    (Matt J, SAHS)

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  3. I believe Vladek's memories are realistic. Vladek shows a lot of emotion while telling his story to Anja. He talks about the things he went through during the beginning of the war, he talks about the places he had to go and also how he was moving from house to house to hide and not get caught. “It was many, many such stories – synagogues burned, Jews beaten with no reason, whole towns pushing out all Jews – each story worse than the other.” (Spiegelman, pg.35). This evidence supports my idea that he has all these memories stuck in his head because he had to fight through it. (Alejandro D. ,SAHS)

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  4. Kolbe L ( Saint Augustine High School)September 30, 2017 at 2:33 PM

    Vladeks life and memories are very realistic. While he is describing his stories to Artie he is full of emotion. He talks about his experience with women and how he had a very "active" relationship with a woman named Lucia, a women that he did not really want to get involved with(Spiegelman pg. 14). Vladek then fell in love with Anja, a friend of Lucia, and they were married. This of course was upsetting to Lucia and she did not take it lightly. Lucia, in her envy wrote a letter saying Vladek only wanted to marry Anja for her money.(Spiegelman pg. 22). This was very upsetting to Anja and very troubling to Vladek yet he convinced her that Lucia was just jealous and he loves her. Vladek and Anja then had a child and Anja was going through trauma so Vladek took her to a sanitarium. during these events the Nazi regime was slowly rising. As they were heading over to the sanitarium they saw for the first time a Swastika. He then talked about how the Nazis were terrible to Jews. " Another fellow told us of a relative in Brandenberg- the police came to his house and no one heard from him."( Spiegleman pg. 33). This evidence supports my idea that Vladek's life and stories are realistic because he shows emotion and describes how hard it was to get to marry Anja and how her difficulties would strengthen Vladek's love for her.

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  5. Vladek's memories before world war two are realistic. While he's telling Artie his story before the war he is full of emotion and goes into detail about how he was as a person and how his life was. The emotions he shows is what makes the memories realistic. Vladek describes how he fell in love with Anja. Vladek wasn't ready to be committed before Anja came along. "We saw each other together for maybe three or four years." (Spiegleman pg. 15). His girlfriend before Anja wanted to get engaged but Vladek had no desire for that. Later on Vladek is introduced to Anja and we see that Vladek is changed by Anja. When Vladek's ex-girlfriend Lucia tries to intervene and turn Anja against her fiancé Vladek tried to convince her that was Lucia was saying was not true about him. Vladek went through a change and wanted to marry this girl. That's why his memories were realistic, because they stuck out in his mind. These memories are at an important time in his life. Vladek is about to get married to the love of his life and start a family before the war. (William G SAHS)

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  6. I feel that Vladek's pre war stories and quotes are very realistic. In the book, Vladek only really talks about Anja and doesn’t want his past girlfriend to be in it. Vladek talks about Lucia to Artie but then says, "But this what I just told you-about Lucia and so- I don't want you should write this in your book."(Spiegelman, 33). This is one story about his past girlfriend. He does not want it in his son's book because after the war, he feels it is more important to talk about the war and what happened in the war with Anja. His past life, and past experiences were not as important anymore. (Spencer P, SAHS)

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  7. After watching the video and reading Maus 1 I feel like Vladeks memories are very real. While he's telling Artie his story he is speaking with a lot of emotion. He tells Artie how he was in a relationship with a young women named Lucia Greenburg when he meets Anja, his future wife and Arties mother. "They marched us through the city of Bielsko. We passed by the factory what once I owned. We passed the market where always we bought to eat, and passed even the street where we used to live, and we came 'til the prison, and there they put us."(pg 157) This is a particularly tragic scene where Vladek reflects on the radical change his life went through. This also shows us how fast someone's life can change and how Vladeks remembers is old life. (Isaac A , SAHS)

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  8. After completing reading Maus I and watching the video I believe that Vladeks memories appear to be more realistic. Why? well when Vladeks started to talk about all his experiences in his life he had a lot of emotions going through him. He talked about how he met his girl a lot. He told Artie that first he had a girl named Lucia, but that relationship was not so strong so Vladek went on and met Anja (Pg 14-15) When Anja came to vladek life Lucia got mad because the relationship Vladek had with Anja was strong and Lucia knew that she could not stop it, but she obviously tried to get him back so she wrote a letter telling that Vladek only wanted Anja because she had a lot of money of course Anja got upset but vladek convinced her that what Lucia said was not true and this is why his memories looked very real because even though vladek had a hard time dealing with stuff he never gave up and married her. (Gabriel P SAHS)

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  9. After reading Maus and watching the video, Vladeks memories seem more realistic. in the video kids played and really enjoyed themselves. At the beginning of Vladek's story he was also having fun. "I was roller skating with Howie and Steve"(pg.5). this shows how kids befor the war also had fun. People before the holocaust had no idea this was going to happen and everyone was happy. Including Vladek and his friends. MAuse shows a strong representation of jewish life before the war.
    (luis A. SAHS)

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  10. After reading the book, Maus I, and watching the video. Vladek's stories and memories seem too real. He talks about how he met a young girl, Anja (pg 13-15). When he starts speaking of all these memories he had, he had a lot of emotions going through him when he said them. But when his ex-girlfriend, Lucia, found out he had a soon to be wife, she got really mad. Only because she wanted him and wanted to break up his new relationship. Lucia then sent Vladek a letter that Anja found. Anja didn't believe her eyes and Vladek then had to convince her the rumors arent true. This memory is very real because Vladek dealt with it and stived to get what he wanted, and at the end, he did.

    William H. (SAHS)

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  11. After reading Maus 1 and watching the video Vladeks story’s in Maus seen to be real and on topic on what really happened during WW2. His memories seem super realistic to me because all the stories I have read that Vladek has said seem identical to those children and adults in the video. Vladek telling the stories to Artie can possibly mean that Vladeks past can be a very important part of the Holocaust and in WW2. When Artie will publish his book about Vladek, it might very weel go viral and be super popular and a help in History.
    Sebastian D. (SAHS)

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  12. After I read the book Maus 1, Vladek’s story sounds very realistic and in this book we could see his story in pictures and quotations. The book described him as a very gentle and humble man. He talked about his young girl who was Anja in page 13, 14 and 15. In the holocaust, the Jews never knew that the holocaust and all of the destruction was going to happen. And then all of the sudden, the Germans arrive and begin to kill them, torture them and used them as slaves.
    (Juan Carlos R SAHS)

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  13. I believe Vladek's memories are very realistic. Vladek shares a realistic picture of everyday life before the war with Artie. For example, Vladek accurately explains his love life with both Lucia and Anja, Artie’s mom when he could have unrealistically omitted Lucia altogether. Vladek also explains his experience fighting the Germans and eventually being captured. Vladek's memories don't appear to be unrealistic here either. He relays the Germans saying to him, "Give me your gun, its hot you were shooting at us." While he replies realistically and non-heroically, "My commander made me shoot. I only fired in the air." (Griffin Miller) (99)

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  14. After watching the video and reading Maus, it is obvious that Vladek's story was genuine and he wasn't lying. Artie wouldn't make illustrations in the book that weren't true and the way Vladek said things made things so much more realistic. Also, life before World War 2 was so good for everyone. For example, page 5 shows kids roller skating which is something you do for fun. Also, Vladek gets engaged with Anja in the first chapter and Vladek feels true happiness with her. Artie was really lucky that a guy like Vladek was able to survive after all that he's been through.


    Christian B. (SAHS)

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  15. After watching that YouTube video and reading Maus 1, I feel that Vladek's experience is very lifelike and a great portrayal of what life was like. Vladek has a very sociable life like lots of of the people did, and a (soon-to-be) wife in Anja who he meets in the beginning of the book.(Page 13). Vladek portrays all of the unfortunate Jewish people who were treated unhumanely, and is like a real veteran of war who we are lucky to learn from. ( Trevor King SAHS) (85 Words)

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  16. After reading Maus 1 and watching the YouTube video on a glimpse of Jewish life before the Holocaust, I concluded that Vladek's memories where realistic. I thought this because during most and if not all of his stories, Vladek speaks to Artie about his trouble and hardships that he was forced to face during the war and genocide era of 1944-1945. For example on page 12 of Maus 1 Vladek stated "So, only my little brother, Pinek, came out from the war alive … from the rest of my family, it’s nothing left, not even a snapshot." This quote shows that during war as well as during the Holocaust Vladek's whole family was killed, except his brother, and everything he and his brother knew about their family was either lost or had been destroyed during the war to the point where they didn't even have pictures of their loved ones left. Another quote from Maus 1 in chapter six was “The mothers always told so: ‘Be careful! A Jew will catch you to a bag and eat you!’ So they taught to their children.” This quote is a good realistic example of how parents can influence their children and in this case make them dislike or even loath Jews just based off of their religion. Overall I believe that Vladek's stories where realistic because they focused mainly on what actually happened and the ugly truth. He also did not try to sugar coat it and tell Artie the happy more idealistic stories of a time before the war.
    (Nick S. sahs) (WC:98)

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  17. After I watched the video on Jewish life before WWII and reading Maus, his memories are realistic. He talks about his love life and it's full of detail. He talks about marrying Anja and Lucia getting jealous saying that Vladek married Anja for the money.(Spiegelman pg. 22) Later he talks about him being in the war and his memories were very realistic because what he said was the truth. By the way he explains the war and him being a P.O.W., the reader can tell he lived the holocaust.

    Matthew B. (SAHS)

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  18. Karl Hedberg
    English Maus
    After reading Maus 1 and watching the YouTube video I understand now what Vladek portrays in his book and how lifelike and touching his graphic novel is to us who are learning about the Holocaust. I realize now that Maus is a very real story and that almost nothing was exaggerated rather than the facts that the characters were portrayed as mouse and cats. His story proves that the Holocaust isn’t something to ignore it should be something we study and discuss among our peers.

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  19. After reading and watching both, i can see that Vladeks memories are nearly the same with the children's because it was both from their past life, what they were and their future lives, what they hope to become. For example Vladek was hopeful to have a factory, and his dreams came true with the help of his father-in-law. Later as we all know his dreams were destroyed by the Nazi’s. I think his memories are realistic because as we all know history all the Jewish owned businesses were closed. This did not him from working hard and strive in life.

    Diego B (SAHS)

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  20. After reading Maus and watching the video, I belive Vladek's memories are very realistic. When Valdek was telling Artie his stories, you can tell he was telling him with full emotion and with many details. Vladek lived a normal life, just like everyone but because of religion that made him and all jews inferior to people. They thought that because of their religion they deserved to be prosecuted and killed. Vladek's story will help future people learn from this dark time in human history and create awarness if anything of this caliber were to happen again. (Fabian A. SAHS)

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  21. I think that Vladek's memories are realistic. Before the war Vladek lived a very normal life he had a job and girlfriend the only thing that was different was his religion. The way that Vladek describes his life before the war was full of passion and emotion. Vladek also was pretty wealthy before the war too. We also get a look at Vladeks morals. When he went to war he really felt bad for killing that Nazi. Trace B. SAHS

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  22. After reading Maus I and watching the video, I've learned to believe that Vladeks memories are very realistic because when Artie here's stories from Vladek about his memories, Vladek is shown in the book expressing very deep emotions while sharing his memories. Vladek had a very social life with a girlfriend and owned a factory. Both the video and story desribed Vladek as having a girlfriend and a factory which his girlfriends dad gave him the money to buy. Vladeks memories in the book are also real because in the video he talks about his Ex-girlfriend Lucia getting jealous about him marrying Anja and this is also included in the book. The last reason for me saying Vladeks memories are realistic is because each talks about Vladeks pre and after war life with Nazi's. Travis H. SAHS

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