Sunday, October 20, 2013

Authenticity of MEMORY....

Artie tries to ensure authenticity in his reporting of his father's story. What steps does he take to try to make Maus as accurate as possible? Explain your response with textual evidence.

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  1. He asks his father for details and does things like including the conversations with his father and Mala between his fathers memories. ~Noah B.

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  2. When he gets the information from his father, he records his conversations to get every detail. He also includes off-topic conversations with his father and step-mother.

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  3. He asks every detail to his fathers story from start to finish making sure he doesn't leave anything out even if his father thinks its irrelevant. Like at the end of chapter one his father said "i can tell you other stories, but such private things,i don't want want you should mention.' but Artie leaves this part in the story to not only add context but to keep what his father said 100% real and factual -Dalton Greenlee

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  4. Artie makes sure that every single detail is mentioned in the book because he thinks each part is important. His father does not think some things are relevant but Artie adds them anyways because he wants to include each part of the story no matter how small it may seem. In the first chapter Artie's father is telling him about Lucia and he tells Artie that it has nothing to do with the Holocaust so he shouldn't write it down, but Artie does anyways because he wants to tell the complete story and tell it thoroughly.
    -Angela B.

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  5. Arte makes sure everything in he writes down is accurate to his father's words. Throughout the book, he asks for every detail form his father because he wants everything 100% of what his father experienced during the holocaust. Artie also uses things not involving the holocaust, he uses his and his father's conversations in his normal day life. He uses his father's statements no matter if his dad didn't think it was important to use. Artie wanted a true, factual story to write. And that's what he did.

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  6. One example of Artie trying to ensure authenticity to Maus we find in the beginning of the book, when he starts taking notes on the story his father, Vladek, was telling him about his horrible past life during the Holocaust; But later on he starts recording his conversations with him, the reason Artie says on the book that the reason of this change was because his hand got tired from writing so much and so fast; But I believe that another reason for recording their conversations is because he wanted to get every little detail, because Artie wanted the story to be as authentic as possible. Another example in the book is when Artie ask his step mother about Vladek’s life, about how it was back in the Holocaust, so that he could have more than just one point of view, again to improve his story and make it more authentic. One more example about Artie trying to make Maus more accurate is his constant petition of the diaries his mother Anja did during the Holocaust, this shows us how active Artie is and how much he cares about making his book better and more concrete for us, the readers, to understand. (203)

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    1. The notes and recordings help keep Artie honest...so his emotions do not sway what he writes/remembers of his father's story!

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  7. Artie want’s to record his father because he wants to write every detail of his father story and even the “boring” stuff/the not so important things. When his father tells Artie that he doesn’t have to write some of the things down, Artie does it anyways. He does it because the story of his father’s life has to feel real and true. Artie’s father tell him in the start that no one wants to hear his holocaust story and his father think it is ridiculous that Artie want to spend his time on a book about him. But Artie don’t care, he wants to hear the story of his father and mother and he want other people to “hear” it too!

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  8. At first Artie just writes down what his father says, and even though his father didn't want to tell him the ''boring'' stuff, he had asked him to tell him everything. Eventually, he gets tired of writing down all the details so he ends up buying a recorder and just recording what his dad says. He doesn't want to miss anything because everything about his life is really important for the story, even the things his father considers ''boring''.

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  9. Throughout the entire book Artie makes sure that all the small details are mentioned. His father tells him not to put certain things in the novel because he doesn’t believe they are relevant. Artie puts them in anyway because he wants to incorporate all the aspects of his father’s story no matter how small. For example, in the first chapter Vladek talks about a girl named Lucia he briefly dated and tells Artie not to put it in because it is before the war. Artie puts it in anyway because he wants to have a complete story from life before and during the war. By using the small details as well as the big parts of the story it makes the book and the story more concrete and an authentic piece of work. (Rula Tareq)

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  10. he asks his father about every detail. even when his father didnt want things put in the book he did anyways because he wants it to be as detailed and accurate as possible. he dosent just ask his father but also the step mother. he did everything possible to get information. -Justin Register

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  11. Artie wants everything in detail his father says to put in his report. His father would bring up other things about the holocaust that were less important to make the most important make sense. He also talks about something that his father has troubles in life like counting his pills and then talking about the holocaust.

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  12. Artie make sure he keeps his fathers wondering mind on track. He tells his father to be very detailed when he is telling his story and he always makes sure he has his type writer or pen and pencil to write down his father's story. - Hayden Groff

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  13. Art shows a great attention to detail throughout the book. He includes the small details in addition to the major events. He even includes the actual conversations with his father instead of just telling the story directly. You see his desire for detail in the story when he begins asking his father for the Diaries of his mother. He is furious with his father when he finds they were destroyed calling him a "murderer". He wants the diary to verify his father's story and to hear his mothers. He also wants it, on a more personal level, as a last connection to his mother after her suicide. This may be why he refers to his father as a murderer afterwards, he sees him as having murdered the last memory of his mother. -Zack Wolfrey

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  14. Art makes sure to include every part of his father's story. He often had to ask his father to specifically describe a certain part of the story. He was also very interested in knowing his mothers whole story, so when his father explains that he doesn't have the diary he is upset..so upset he calls his father a murderer! All the time he made sure to have a pen and paper or even a recorder. This story was very important to him therefore he didn't want to leave out any small details. -Laura Davis

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  15. I think Artie uses certain techniques and information to ensure the authenticity of the work. I noticed that the Father's words were awkward or his sentences were worded strangely. I then realized that Artie wanted his father to come alive to the reader, so he most likely used the exact wording his father gave when he told the story directly to Artie. I also think the introduction helped in making the story seem more real because it gave background and seemingly unimportant information on the father's life. Also, the use of the father's life in a "today" standpoint gave the reader a sense of direct connection with the story. We are not being told by Artie but by the father himself.
    -Olivia Pyanoe

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  16. Artie puts his fathers exact words even if he has some sort of grammatical error. He also makes sure that he keeps his father on the right track and doesn't let him ramble on. He makes sure to tell his father to include every detail and keep it the story in chronological order. Artie makes sure that the reader gets the real story from the real survivor, not his take on the events that his father revealed

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  17. Artie has a voice recorder that he recorded his dad with, which helped him make sure he got every detail. Also he kept his father on track by urging him to say every detail of what really happened. Even when he didn't know what to draw he tried his best to figure it out. (Ben Shifflett)

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  18. Artie uses a voice recorder when talking with his dad to make sure he did not miss one specific detail. He constantly reminds his dad to go in chronological order, and to tell it exactly how it happened even though it was difficult. Arties technique made the story realistic. The story came from his father not his interpretation.

    -PJ Sabo

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  19. Throughout the book, Artie tries to ensure authenticity in his reporting of his father's story. He knows if he wants to write a story about his father’s life, he must record important details. As Vladek begins to tell Artie about his life, Artie carries a notepad every time he is with his father. One occurrence (p.105 Maus I) is when Vladek is telling Artie about the selection in the stadium with all the prisoners that have been taken. Although Artie writes down everything that his father says, he still doesn’t capture the true emotions. It also becomes difficult for Artie to write down all the details his father says. Another way Artie tries to ensure authenticity is (Maus I p.73) he goes out and buys a tape record. With the tape recorder he can have all the details kept with the voice of his father. Having his father’s voice on the tape recorder now gives the same emotion as if he were telling it face to face later when he writes the book. We can see the tape recorder work because as Artie refers to it (Maus II p.41), it has a deep effect on him as he tries to continue to write the story. (WC 207)
    -Harley Lehrke

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  20. Throughout the story of both books, Artie tries to record what Vladek says about all of his memories of the entire experience of the Holocaust. He ranges from simply writing everything down to recording it on a tape recorder. One attempt he tried to do in make the book as accurate as possible was to recover journals of Anja's experience of Auschwitz. Then what ruined it was Vladek long before the writing of the journal burning the journals.After Anja died, Vladek had become so sad that he wanted nothing to do to remember the Auschwitz. Yet even though recovering journals or recording words still isn't enough to make it fully accurate, for it doesn't show emotion,though it shows still a lot. To make this even more accurate, Artie added a picture of Vladek himself after the war to show that he was a very real person, instead of a historical fiction character.(pg. 134) (second book)

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  21. In the book MAUS, Artie uses real life evidence in order to make his book as accurate as possible. One example (p. 29 Maus 1) of Artie trying to make the book as accurate as it is that Artie takes note of what Vladek says about his life in World War II. As he talks about his past life, Vladek is shown in a panel talking to Artie about when Anja was conspiring with Communists. Another example (p. 73 Maus 1) of Artie making the book accurate is as Artie begins to talk to Vladek more about when the Nazis were occupying Sosnowiec. To do this, Artie used a tape recorder to record everything of what Vladek says about his time in Poland. Another example (p. 134 Maus 2) of the book Maus being accurate is when in the book, it shows an actual picture of Vladek when he got out of Auschwitz. In this book filled with people portrayed as animals, a person actually shown as a person shows that actually was real, as opposed to being made up and drawn to portray a human. By doing this, this shows that this book is connected to the real world, showing that this was a real account of World War 2. (Word Count: 211)
    Shaun McDoniel

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  22. During both the books Artie was always trying to make sure he would get every detail of his father's story exact. There are many different things that he did to ensure the authenticity of his father's story. One thing that he did throughout both books was just ask questions. Another thing that he did was right at the beginning of Maus 1, where he was just starting to hear his father's story, he had a notebook and pencil where he wrote down notes on everything that his father told him (Maus 1, p 26). On p.26 we can see Artie sitting at the table, with his notebook and pencil, with his father. Artie visited his father regularly and wrote down notes on his story. Later on in the books Artie adapted to a new way to record his father's story. Instead of having to write everything down Artie started to incorporate a tape recorder into his visits with his father. We see Artie first use his tape recorder in (Maus 1, p. 73) and then later on in the Maus books Artie uses the tape recorder as a source (Maus 2, p. 47). Artie was able to listen to the tape recorder even after his fathers death. After listening to his father's story, recording notes with his notebook and pencil, and recording the conversations they had with a tape recorder, Artie was able to ensure the authenticity of his fathers story (Word count: 230)
    Jerry McGuire

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  23. Steps Artie takes to make Maus as accurate as possible is by writing Vladek’s story on a notepad with a pencil (p.67). In addition, he not only record Vladek's story but Mala, Vladek, and including himself when having a conversation (p.133 Maus I). Atrie continues to record Vladek with a notepad and a pencil to record all of Vladek’s story-telling back when he living at the the time of World War II in Maus I, until we get into Maus II. In Maus II, Artie uses a tape recorder all throughout Maus II. Just like in Maus I, Artie uses a notepad and a pencil to recorder throughout the book of Maus I. In Maus II, Artie starts using a tape recorder (at p.23 Maus II) because it was obviously more efficient capturing Vladek’s story, and didn’t take much energy to record as the tape recorder does all the work as oppose to the notepad and pencil. Artie make sure Vladek is thinking at same pace for example (p.45 Maus I), Artie stops Vladek he was skipping ahead his story at the time of World War II. One last step Artie tries to make sure to keep Maus I and Maus II as accurate as possible is putting the unnecessary events that happened after the storytelling of Vladek. For example (p.68 Maus I), Vladek throws away Artie’s coats away or the time when Vladek tells Artie to not talk about Lucia and to keep it private because it had nothing to with the Holocaust (p.23 Maus I). Artie did all of this to make Maus I and Maus II accurate.


    Word Count: 276
    Marlon Cervantes

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  24. Throughout both Maus I and Maus II, Artie consistently tries to keep the story as authentic as possible. He does this through a variety of ways and lets the reader know of them by writing them in as part of the book. For instance, in the book Maus I p. 82, Artie writes in the book how he is trying to keep his father on topic to help keep the story as accurate as possible. Vladek, Artie’s father, started to talk about a different tangent then he was previously and the tangent he was speaking of did not chronologically come next. Artie tells his father to keep his story chronological to keep it as accurate as possible. In Maus I p.45, Artie again tries to keep the story as authentic as possible. Artie’s father is telling Artie of how they only went to training for a few days before fighting the Germans. At this Artie asks his father to clarify that they only trained them for a few days or more. At this his father tells him about how he had been in the army for 18 months when he was younger and trains for a month every four years. (word count 200) - Armando Ochoa

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  25. In order to make the story truthful he asks his father about every single little detail in the story. And by doing this he tries to put every single detail in the story that he can. AT the beginning of he third chapter he is talking got to his dad about him counting his pills, obviously this is not very important to the story line but he adds it anyways just to make sure that the story is as accurate as possible.

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